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Thursday, May 16, 2024

Illegitimate Women's Council Explained (from outline 1.a.iv.v.)

 This post will present evidence supporting paragraph (1.a.iv.v.) from the outline.

  1. Attendance

    1. Louis requested to come to Women’s Council #1 but was not allowed. 

iv. The rules set by the council were fickle and unpredictable.

v.  The women knew Louis was out of the country and gave

     him less than 48 hours notice to meet their requirements.


Louis did not know what was witnessed against him, he was only able to discern generalities based on the questions he was asked to respond to. NEITHER Louis nor his wife were INVITED TO ATTEND the women’s council where two of their marital arguments were evaluated and judged.


Witnesses were to refrain from hearsay and keep their comments to incidents they personally witnessed. However, the major complaints of Council #1 could not have been observed by witnesses, as they both took place in a private bedroom.

  • *First Event in Israel

    • Louie’s wife reported a dispute in the couple’s private bedroom. 

    • Another couple witnessed crabby words spoken between Louis and his wife throughout the trip. 

  • *Second Event in UK

    • An apparent dispute took place in the couple's private bedroom.

    • Some of those traveling with Louis and his wife received a Whatsapp message and observed tension between the couple. 


*If other events were of concern, Louis was not made aware.


Friday, January 12, 2024, 9:37 am, to Louis from Organizer #1: First Notice of Upcoming Women’s Council.


Dear Louis,

With heavy hearts and after prayer and fasting we have determined that there is a need for a Women’s Council to consider your eligibility to retain your Priesthood Certificate . . . To determine your continued eligibility, the council will discuss your public actions As witnessed by at least two or more people, first in Israel in January 2023 and then in the UK in November 2023. The counsel from the Lord, as recorded in Teaching and Commandments 157:57 and 175:32, will be our guide for the Proceedings.


The council will be discussing several grave concerns that have been brought to

our attention connected with your behavior towards your wife, in both Israel, and the UK.


. . . Please respect the following guidelines when/if you respond with your answers to the questions that we, as a Council, have asked in this letter. 


  1. Refrain from hearsay and he said/she said statements. 

  2. Respond as briefly and succinctly as possible. 

  3. We are willing to take your answers under review so long as you stick to facts and do not slander either your wife or the women of the Council.

  4. We are not asking for the complete retelling of the incidents (since several of us on the council were there), but for any important additions and perspectives, you feel need to be added.

  5. Please keep your comments to incidents that you have personally witnessed (feelings and beliefs are allowed)


Final Thoughts 

As mentioned above, we are using the Lord’s counsel recorded in T&C 157:57 as our guide. As you may or may not know, it does not have a provision for the accused to speak at or during a Women’s Council. The Lord left that up to the Women to decide whether to allow that or not. Because we decided against inviting you to speak during the upcoming meeting/proceedings, this letter is our attempt to hear your side/version of the events that were witnessed by multiple people in this movement . . .


Lastly, please note that [wife] was not invited to be on the Council, nor is she a witness. In fact, she was not asked to participate at all and did not submit a written or verbal statement. All the reports of the events described in this report come from multiple witnesses who were there and saw/heard things firsthand —none of which are [wife]. This was done to avoid multiple “he said/she said” scenarios where no other witnesses were present.


We ask that you reply by email on or before Saturday night, Jan 13th, at midnight US time, which is 7 am UK time on Sunday the 14th . We are aware that this is not much time to reply, and we appreciate any effort you make . . . [Less than 48 hours notice]


Organizers Expand Original Complaints & Change Deadlines


1st Change


There is another question and a new deadline.

Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:16 am GMT+3 to Louis from Organizer #2

Louis, We met on Sunday as a Women's Council. We did not come to a decision. We called a recess and will meet again next Sunday, January 22 [Sunday is Jan 21, 2024]. This gives you an additional few days to respond. We hope you respond because the women of this council want to hear your account of things before making a decision. We did not receive your last email until 11:49 am our time last Sunday. This was after the recess had been called. 


During the council, the women voted on the best way to consider your testimony. The consensus was to extend a third invitation to you to please submit your response in writing. All of the other testimonies we have considered thus far have been in written form. Thus, allowing you to respond in writing is both fair and appropriate . . . [wife] is being offered the same opportunity to submit a written document before we reconvene next Sunday, which will be read to the council if she chooses to submit one.


As we explicitly asked in our letter to you dated Thursday, Jan 11, please conform to the guidelines listed there when writing your response, being mindful to answer the specific questions that are found in that letter, along with any feelings about those events that you would like to share. In addition to those questions listed in the letter of January 12, please answer one more . . . 


Lastly, because we are offering you (for a third time) the opportunity to answer these charges in your own words, we have set the deadline for us to receive your written/audio response as Thursday, January 18th at 12 Noon. [Less than 24 hours notice]


2nd Change


The council addressed two specific events that happened in Israel and the UK, but the new questions were not about what happened in Israel and the UK. There is also a new deadline.


Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 1:51 am GMT+3 to Louis from Organizer #1:


Lou, We have two additional questions we are inviting you to answer . . . Also, we have extended the deadline to receive any response from you to this Friday at 6 pm, US time . . . [Less than 48 hours notice]


Louis and his wife were not present at Council #1, but witnesses were invited to attend the majority of the time.


May 14, 2024, 2:16 p.m. Angela O’Rullian [council member] in comments below blog post:


Some of the procedures changed during the duration of the council without involving consensus of the members . . . Also, the majority of the procedural decisions during and after the council were made by the organizers and not by unanimous or consensus decisions of the whole group.


Furthermore, there was very little discovery process and much of the witness written testimonies contained many personal opinions and persuasive language. The witnesses were then asked to be in attendance, staying the majority of the time and offering their own persuasive arguments toward what the outcome should be . . . 


Note: Louis was traveling in Türkiye at the time. Many days he didn’t know where he was going to sleep and struggled to find his next night’s lodging, sometimes in dangerous territories, but all where he did not speak the language. He had an inconsistent internet connection, no computer, and communication was limited.


Wednesday, January 17, 10:56 PM Louis forwarded Jennifer the January 17, 2024 email from Organizer #2 along with this note: 


Haven’t even read this yet. 

Almost didn’t have a place to sleep last night as my internet went completely out. 



To Be Continued . . . 



*If you have an objection to what I have written. Please submit your evidence along with your first and last name.*


[emphasis added throughout]

Wednesday, May 15, 2024

Illegitimate Women's Council Explained (from outline 1.a.vi)

This post will present evidence supporting paragraph (1.a.vi) from the outline documenting Louie’s apologies. His efforts were minimized and ignored by the organizers of Women’s Council #1 who received the apologies as I will demonstrate below.

  1. Attendance

    1. Louis requested to come to Women’s Council #1 but was not allowed. 

vi. Louie’s apologies were minimized and ignored.


A marital dispute between Louis and his wife in the UK November 15-16, 2023 was apparently the catalyst for Women’s Council #1. 


The organizers of Women’s Council #1 did not acknowledge the apologies Louis sent in November 2023. It appears the organizers of Council #1 were asking Louis to explain his angry reaction to Organizer #1 after she scolded him for sending a message to a small group of friends. Below is an excerpt from the email Louis received informing him of the January 14, 2024 Women’s Council being held against him.


January 13, 2024 at 10:32:04 AM GMT+3 to Louis from Organizer #1:

 . . . why didn’t you retract your statements on the group thread and apologize for dragging everybody into it and upsetting them . . . you angrily confronted [husband of Organizer #1 and another man] in the gas station parking lot and made a big scene in front of everyone there. Why were you so enraged . . . 


Apology #1


Private text messages between Louis and his wife


Saturday, November 18, 2023, 10:19 a.m. text from wife to Louis:

I forgive you.

11:47 p.m. text from Louis to wife: 

I forgive you too. Be happy.

Apology #2


Text message to Organizer #1 and her husband


Friday, November 24, 2023, 10:41 pm from Louis to Organizer #1 and her husband:

Watching the end of my relationship with [wife] is, and was, very difficult for me; and it's still causing me considerable anguish. I sincerely apologize for my loss of control; she mattered to me, and I wanted it to work. 


When she informed me on our first night in Leeds that "God told [wife] I was divorced from you 3 years ago" it obviously put me into a tailspin. I'm still very emotional.


I apologize that left me yelling at you in the gas station parking lot. I honestly I had only slept for barely an hour, and was watching my marriage evaporate. But that's just context and explanation. There's no excuse. I was wrong and I apologize.


Sunday, November 26, 2023, 11:12 p.m. from husband of Organizer #1:

Hey Lou. Just saw this today on Whatsapp:


“I’ve already apologized to [Organizer #1 and her husband]”


We never got this.


Louis replied: 

I sent it to both of you. (Louis sent a screenshot of the Nov 24th apology he had previously sent to them.)


Apology #3


Whatsapp message to larger UK group


November 26, 2023, 10:49 a.m. from Louis to Whatsapp group thread which included the organizers of Council #1:

I’ve already apologized to [Organizer #1 and her husband]. If I owe anyone else on this thread an apology, please contact me on my US number and I’ll make it right.”


Louis asked and gave ample opportunity to reconcile this incident with those who were offended.



To Be Continued . . . 



*If you have an objection to what I have written. Please submit your evidence along with your first and last name.*



Monday, May 13, 2024

Illegitimate Women's Council Explained (from outline 3.b.i.ii.)

This post will present evidence supporting paragraph (3.b.i,ii) from the outline to demonstrate WE ARE factually Louie’s home fellowship and provided ample proof of that before Council #2 convened. No other fellowship came forward claiming Louie as a member of their home fellowship; and we do not recognize any of the women from Council #2 as members of our home fellowship.

3.  Not in Home Fellowship

b. Council #2 was not in Louie’s home fellowship or at a general

    conference.

  1. Council organizers claimed that the conference would be held in Louie’s home fellowship. However, WE ARE factually Louie’s home fellowship and provided ample proof of that. We further challenged any other group to provide evidence they may have proving home fellowship, but our request was ignored. Instead, a response by email minimized the need for the coming council to meet the home fellowship requirement. Surprisingly, the email sent to the entire movement notifying them of the outcome stated that the council was held in his home fellowship. This was a lie. 

  2. Our statement to the council before the council convened was: As his home fellowship, we hold ourselves accountable to investigate concerns about Louie’s behavior or actions as it pertains to public priestly service. Any concerns need to be brought to us. We will conduct a thorough investigation into each and every claim and report promptly. If further questions arise, we will investigate those as well. We ask you to quickly respond with details of each charge: priestcraft, deceit, abuse. Please provide as much detail as possible [Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How] and contact information of the witnesses. 


Because she believed Council #2 would likely include many of the same women who served on Council #1, Jennifer Willis, mother and grandmother of the Willis Family Fellowship, sent Council #1 the following message:


April 25, 2024, 6:10 p.m. Jennifer:

We hereby challenge the claim that some other fellowship or group defines themself as Louie’s home fellowship.


If any such group claims to be Louie’s home fellowship, we further challenge you to support your claim. 


We claim to be Louie’s home fellowship. Here is our evidence:


  1. Length of time: We been fellowshipping with Louis since 2013

  2. Financial Support: We have received significant financial assistance from Louis when we needed it [over $10,000]. We have likewise supported him when he has been in need.

  3. Tithing Councils: We have counseled together as to how to support and distribute tithing funds among us.

  4. Time and Labor: Thousands of hours have been exchanged. 

  5. Mutual Claimant: We publicly and privately claim Louis as a member of our current home fellowship. He also claims to be a member of our current home fellowship.

  6. Meeting Frequency: We fellowship together for weekly Sunday lessons and have continual associations throughout each week. 

  7. Daily Walk: Not only have we been in fellowship association for over ten years, in a very literal sense, we have recorded where Louis has been and what he has been doing every day since October 12, 2023. 

  8. Fellowship Events: Road trips, marriage of children at our home, marriage counseling sessions with Louis and [wife], large scale construction projects, planned and hosted retreats and conferences, etc.

  9. Priesthood Certificate: Jennifer Willis is one of the women who has signed Louis’s priesthood certificate. 


As his home fellowship, we hold ourselves accountable to investigate concerns about Louie’s behavior or actions as it pertains to public priestly service. Any concerns need to be brought to us. We will conduct a thorough investigation into each and every claim and report promptly. If further questions arise, we will investigate those as well. We ask you to quickly respond with details of each charge: priestcraft, deceit, abuse. Please provide as much detail as possible [Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How] and contact information of the witnesses.  


Thank you,


The Willis Fellowship


April 26, 2024, 10:46 a.m., Response from Women’s Council Member:  

We have “Volunteer” Fellowships at the present, not home fellowships. . . . Today, it is rare to have a “home fellowship” everyone has been hurt, are transient, don’t fellowship due to jarring contention etc . . . Our fellowship hasn’t met for a long time and . . . is in my fellowship!  We are so broken and untrusting. The best we can claim is that these fellowships are voluntary gatherings, and we are volunteering our all to get to know each-other and serve those around us . . .


The argument of “Home” Fellowship” yadda yadda doesn’t hold that much weight with me. We are a mess as a movement but there is potential if our hearts are right. We choose women to be on councils who preferably know of the man, or have spent some time with him, but in these groups it has been so hard to truly know each other because of aspiring men and harsh cruel behaviors.  To me, it is more important to have women in a council who understand Christ's gospel and who are receptive to the Spirit of Truth and those who can discern wisely. 


Friday, April 26, 2024, 11:01 a.m. Jennifer responds to women: 

The requirement of Home Fellowship might not hold much weight with you, but it does with the Lord. It is the term He uses, and we are not at liberty to change it. If you claim . . . as your home fellowship, that is your choice. I hope this means you're attending . . . fellowship on a regular basis. You do not get to choose Louie's home fellowship. 


[woman], I likewise challenge you to give evidence of your daily walk with Louis. 


Jennifer


Although Louie has visited other fellowships from time to time, NO OTHER FELLOWSHIP is claiming Louie as a member of their home fellowship. Yet, 14 women emailed this statement to hundreds of men, women, and children.


TO THE MOVEMENT: April 29, 2024, 10:55 p.m. from 14 women: 

On Sunday, April 28, 2024, a council of 14 women met to consider the question of Louie’s worthiness to hold a priesthood certificate. These 14 women included his wife and women from his home fellowship, as well as those who know his daily walk. All are very familiar with Louis and most have known him personally for many years . . . 


None of these women are in our fellowship. The requirement we've been given to conduct these councils in a man’s home fellowship among those who are acquainted with his daily walk is wisdom in the Lord so that no injustice results. 


To Be Continued . . . 


*If you have an objection to what I have written. Please submit your evidence along with your first and last name.*


[emphasis added throughout and minor grammatical errors corrected]